tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post3264058172551626553..comments2024-03-07T02:17:34.434-08:00Comments on Tom In Paine: OBAMA'S FLAWS CATCHING UP WITH HIM AS HE SINKS IN THE POLLSMarc Rubinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10746456438052849715noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-17904597117864452422009-10-06T14:29:25.230-07:002009-10-06T14:29:25.230-07:00The dems control both houses. The repubs cannot &q...The dems control both houses. The repubs cannot "obstruct" anything. Most of the public does not want THIS reform. This isn't about health care reform it's about government control. Kill these bills.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-30417996909730926062009-09-09T08:32:29.907-07:002009-09-09T08:32:29.907-07:00Obama blows.Obama blows.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-88726508390631582932009-09-07T16:27:13.517-07:002009-09-07T16:27:13.517-07:00How about the fact that Obama started bombing Paki...How about the fact that Obama started bombing Pakistan his first week in office? That surely is on his plate. <br /><br />Using drones to bomb villages and killing hundreds of civilians is what Bush probably would have done, given more time, but it isn't him doing it. Obama started that one. <br /><br />I consider expanding Bush's Afghanistan war to be Obama's decision. And a bad one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-57610405601793260642009-09-07T11:43:50.700-07:002009-09-07T11:43:50.700-07:00"...I would liken this situation to Vietnam&q..."...I would liken this situation to Vietnam"<br /><br />Viet Nam was based on a completely flawed geopolitcal theory called The Domino Theory whereby if one country in southeast Asia fell to the communists they all would fall.<br />First the theory was nonsense and second the war was a civil war between north and south and not the Soviet inspired war that motivated our involvement. We had no business being there.<br /><br />We have every business being in Afghanistan and it was right that we went there right after 911. The problem was Bush taking his eye off the ball and going into Iraq for no good reason.<br /><br />Unless someone can show that the Taliban is no threat to us and they are not a breeding ground for terrorists we should defeat them.<br /><br />If someone can show they are no threat to us I would agree its time to get out.Marc Rubinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10746456438052849715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-35561250674177772512009-09-07T09:22:48.598-07:002009-09-07T09:22:48.598-07:00Re: Afghanistan. Like the others who have posted...Re: Afghanistan. Like the others who have posted, I must disagree with you, Marc. <br /><br />I would liken this situation to Vietnam. While Kennedy was the one who initially put "advisors" there and then a small number of troops, it was Johnson who escalated our involvement, eventually sending half a million. Thus, it became Johnson's war. <br /><br />Similarly, Bush put troops into Afghanistan and routed the Taliban while not capturing bin Laden; however, he very quickly abandoned all interest in Afghanistan in order to invade Iraq. That abandonment has now led to the Taliban's resurgence. <br /><br />Unfortunately, the only promise Obama made during the campaign that he has kept was his intention to increase troops in Afghanistan. Thus, it is now Obama's war -- not Bush's -- and Obama is responsible for any and all deaths that occur on his watch.Roz in NJ/NYCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-66707886379896132862009-09-06T09:33:57.825-07:002009-09-06T09:33:57.825-07:00"but it's all still Bush's fault.&quo..."but it's all still Bush's fault."<br /><br />75% of it Bush's fault. 911 is Bush's fault for ignoring 8 months of terror warnings and dismissing terrorism as a threat till we got hit which is why we are now in Afghanistan in the first place.<br /><br />The other 25% is the press' fault for being lap dogs and letting this imbecile we had for a president get away with it for 8 years.<br /><br />As for Afghanistan, unless someone can show the Taliban isnt going to be the breeding ground for terrorists that protected Bin Laden in the first place, and they are no threat, they need to be defeated. Had Bush not been the idiot that he was and had he gone after them in the first place instead of Iraq we wouldnt be there now. <br /><br />As for Obama,he doesnt have a clue as to what he's doing. He does what the military tells him. He is a Democratic version of Bush but cant be blamed for all the ineptitude and incomptetency of Bush and Rumsfeld which the country is still paying for.Marc Rubinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10746456438052849715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-80020080468141158272009-09-05T23:36:52.198-07:002009-09-05T23:36:52.198-07:00That's interesting, with Obama , we are still...That's interesting, with Obama , we are still at war, with no end in sight, Gates is still in charge, but it's all still Bush's fault. <br /><br />That explains why the once celebrated Cindy Sheehan has become invisible in the professional anit-war press as she tries to hold Obama's feet to the fire.<br /><br />If Cindy still set up her camp outside Bush's house ,<br />perhaps she might get coverage again instead of crickets.Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05033117202223821117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-8770969434031772702009-09-05T19:32:51.808-07:002009-09-05T19:32:51.808-07:00"The only thing Obama has going for him so fa..."The only thing Obama has going for him so far compared to Bush is that so far his handling of things hasnt killed anyone yet." Well, except for those 95 Afghanis Nato forces blew up the other day. Oh wait, they don't count. Now that it's Obama's war, the left just can't get enough of third-world blood.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-85868306508060464272009-09-05T10:39:14.943-07:002009-09-05T10:39:14.943-07:00myiq2xu is right, Marc. While it is true Bush star...myiq2xu is right, Marc. While it is true Bush started the Afghan war, Obama campaigned on making it the primary theater for the fight on terror and then when he got into office he sent more troops there. This is now clearly Obama's war and any new deaths - and there have been many since Febuary - is blood on Obama's hands.<br /><br />bert in OhioAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-38327052743503995762009-09-04T05:33:08.061-07:002009-09-04T05:33:08.061-07:00"Excuse me? You haven't read anything on ..."Excuse me? You haven't read anything on the war in Afganistan yet? "<br /><br />Excuse me? Will you invest in a calender? The war in Afghanistan, blown by Bush because of his stupid invasion of Iraq started in 2001 and if Bush hadnt been such an imbecile and fought the war we should have fought we wouldnt be there now and we would be losing.<br /><br />Every American death in Afghanistan now and since 2001 goes on Bush's ledger.Marc Rubinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10746456438052849715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-45515533251732060722009-09-04T00:50:01.364-07:002009-09-04T00:50:01.364-07:00I said last year that if Obama won he was in troub...I said last year that if Obama won he was in trouble because there would be no place to hide.<br /><br />The problem with being all things to all people as a candidate is that once you are elected you have to make decisions, and every one you make will piss someone off.<br /><br />Even worse for Obama is he has no principles to carry him through tough times. Buzzwords like "hope," "change" and "competence" are not a substitute for policy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-30035506192719668312009-09-03T21:49:22.410-07:002009-09-03T21:49:22.410-07:00"The only thing Obama has going for him so fa..."The only thing Obama has going for him so far compared to Bush is that so far his handling of things hasnt killed anyone yet."<br /><br />Excuse me? You haven't read anything on the war in Afganistan yet? There are soldiers getting maimed and killed over there everyday and it is Obama's War...not Bush's. Why are we even there? Oh, I know...to get the taliban. Pfft....anyone knows, and a President should, that the strongest military in the world can't wipe out an ideology. Yep, Obama's decisions have got some people killed.<br /><br />LonniAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com