tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post2550556521940099761..comments2024-03-07T02:17:34.434-08:00Comments on Tom In Paine: OBAMA: START THE REVOLUTION WITHOUT ME.Marc Rubinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10746456438052849715noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-81975818508354342312009-06-24T17:07:37.978-07:002009-06-24T17:07:37.978-07:00Well, as I predicted, the inevitable crackdown in ...Well, as I predicted, the inevitable crackdown in Iran has begun. The best piece I have read lately comes from the inimitable by Juan Cole:<br /><br />"....Obama will likely be as helpless before a crackdown by the Iranian regime as Eisenhower was re: Hungary in 1956, Johnson was re: Prague in 1968, and Bush senior was re: Tienanmen Square in 1989. George W. Bush, it should remember, did nothing about Tehran's crackdown on student protesters in 2003 or about the crackdown on reformist candidates, which excluded them from running in the 2004 Iranian parliamentary elections, or about the probably fraudulent election of Ahmadinejad in 2005. It is hard to see what he could have done, contrary to what his erstwhile supporters in Congress now seem to imply. As an oil state, the Iranian regime does not need the rest of the world and is not easy to pressure. So Obama needs to be careful about raising expectations of any sort of practical intervention by the US, which could not possibly succeed. (Despite the US media's determined ignoring the the Afghanistan War, it is rather a limiting factor on US options with regard to Iran.) Moreover, if the regime succeeds in quelling the protests, however odious it is, it will still be a chess piece on the board of international diplomacy and the US will have to deal with it just as it deals with post-Tiananmen China."<br /><br />That is reality.<br /><br />Link to full article:<br /><br />http://www.juancole.com/2009/06/washington-and-iran-protests-would-they.html<br /><br /><br />bert in OhioAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-87085649865330154572009-06-24T13:45:50.114-07:002009-06-24T13:45:50.114-07:00"...It is likely that these terrorist organiz..."...It is likely that these terrorist organizations are responsible for the burning buses and other acts of violence that have occurred during the demonstrations in Tehran."<br /><br />The reports by eye witnesses out of Iran today is that government militia have attacked demonstrators with axes. Its unlikely that these are terrorist organizations outside the government. And the fact that the government is now offering such lame explanations for Neda's shooting (like being mistaken for a terrorsits sister) indicates they know they are responsible.Marc Rubinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10746456438052849715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-12645209464143752202009-06-24T13:24:22.790-07:002009-06-24T13:24:22.790-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14642686457343223421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-20294796314364285122009-06-23T13:06:49.318-07:002009-06-23T13:06:49.318-07:00If the new revolution is successful, he's goin...If the new revolution is successful, he's going to figure out a way to take credit for it.Thinkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-36705216164873952672009-06-23T11:34:27.030-07:002009-06-23T11:34:27.030-07:00http://www.counterpunch.org/
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...http://www.counterpunch.org/<br />roberts06222009.html<br /><br />Timmerman’s organization, Foundation for Democracy, is funded by the National Endowment for Democracy (NED) for the explicit purpose of promoting democracy in Iran. According to Timmerman, NED money was funneled to “pro-Mousavi groups who have ties to non-governmental organizations outside Iran that the National Endowment for Democracy funds.”<br /><br /><b>The US media has studiously ignored all of these highly suggestive facts. The media is not reporting or providing objective analysis. It is engaged in a propagandistic onslaught against the Iranian government.</b><br /><br />We know that the US funds terrorist organizations inside Iran that are responsible for bombings and other violent acts. It is likely that these terrorist organizations are responsible for the burning buses and other acts of violence that have occurred during the demonstrations in Tehran.<br /><br />A writer on pakalert.wordpress.com says that he was intrigued by the sudden appearance of tens of thousands of Twitter allegations that Ahmadinejad stole the Iranian election. He investigated, he says, and he reports that each of the new highly active accounts were created on Saturday, June 13th. “IranElection” is their most popular keyword. He narrowed the spammers to the most persistent: @StopAhmadi, <br />@IranRiggedElect, and @Change_For_Iran. He researched further and found that On June 14 the Jerusalem Post already had an article on the new twitter. He concludes that the new Twitter sites are propaganda operations.<br /><br />One wonders why the youth of the world, who do not protest stolen elections elsewhere, are so obsessed with Iran.<br /><br />(SNIP)<br /><br />John Bolton laid out the US strategy. First we try to destabilize the regime. Failing that, we strike them militarily. As this strategy unfolds, Iranians will pay in lost independence or in blood for the naiveness of its secularized youth and for the mistake the mullahs made in trusting Mousavi.<br /><br />Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration.BARBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-73943572674748546862009-06-23T09:07:22.454-07:002009-06-23T09:07:22.454-07:00The White House just reiterated that there is no t...The White House just reiterated that there is no thought of taking back the invitation for a July 4 celebration here with the Iranian delegation. <br /><br />Obama doesn't want to meddle anywhere: If things ultimately go in our favor, he takes credit, if not, no blame. That is how he goes through life and doesn't seem to care about anyone but himself.susan hnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-59723669619999752142009-06-23T07:25:32.896-07:002009-06-23T07:25:32.896-07:00I think that Jimmy Carter still holds the rank of ...I think that Jimmy Carter still holds the rank of worst president - just my opinion.<br /><br />Also, doesn't Obama have a date with the Iranian president for hot dogs and fries on the fourth of July? Maybe he doesn't want to mess that up.Johnnoreply@blogger.com