tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post1704622266437274944..comments2024-03-07T02:17:34.434-08:00Comments on Tom In Paine: Tragic murder of MIT officer comes back to haunt journalists in PennState fiasco.Marc Rubinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10746456438052849715noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-59373705551970181202013-05-01T07:03:08.964-07:002013-05-01T07:03:08.964-07:00I agree it's not proven beyond a reasonable do...I agree it's not proven beyond a reasonable doubt Paterno was part of a cover-up, though it does seem clear that PSU officials knew Sandusky was more than just horsing around. But that's not what this idiotic essay was about. This piece of stupidity focused on whether "the media" thinks campus police are real police—a point that isn't even relevant to the issue at all.whatisthisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-19722331556833404512013-05-01T06:47:07.444-07:002013-05-01T06:47:07.444-07:00"Yes, Joe Paterno told an administrator who o..."Yes, Joe Paterno told an administrator who oversees the campus police..."<br /><br />This is a primary point that many people are trying to make, but get dismissed as cult members when they do. How could you say Joe Paterno was part of the cover up when he reported it to his boss, and the boss of the campus police? Yes, they failed at their job and they will be punished. Yes, the University will take some blame because of their inaction, but saying Paterno was a member of this coverup is insincere. Personally, I don't think he did enough, but there is a huge difference between not doing enough, and knowingly sweeping something under the rug.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-22108019604430531382013-05-01T06:17:05.540-07:002013-05-01T06:17:05.540-07:00Why do you truncate and change the Siclair Lewis q...Why do you truncate and change the Siclair Lewis quote in your sidebar? It makes less sense when truncated and becomes crystal clear in full, because what he predicted is already happening, to wit:<br /><br />“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.” <br /><br />Common Sense, Mr. Paine would dictate that such disingenuous edits are verboten. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-91900374421965524072013-05-01T04:29:33.797-07:002013-05-01T04:29:33.797-07:00What do you expect?Sportswriters aren't real j...What do you expect?<br>Sportswriters aren't real journalists.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04734472621111981202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-79956191984135531362013-04-30T15:00:42.060-07:002013-04-30T15:00:42.060-07:00Whoa. You're not even skilled at deflecting at...Whoa. You're not even skilled at deflecting attention from your original point. Your whole idiotic premise was about attacks on campus police as illegitimate. But you clearly can't follow the logic. Yes, Joe Paterno told an administrator who oversees the campus police, and he does deserves credit for that. But that administrator never made actual police officers and investigators aware of the incident. That's a fact, and that matters when it comes to assessing Penn State's culpability as a whole. You're too dumb to see it.whatisthisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-3804480682475719672013-04-30T09:11:53.128-07:002013-04-30T09:11:53.128-07:00"Everyone in America, except for a handful of..."Everyone in America, except for a handful of Penn State football diehards, believes that Paterno, Curley, Schultz and Spanier participated in a conspiracy to cover up child rape."<br /><br />The fact that you think you know what everyone in America thinks says enough about your capacity to reason and is probably why you want to remain anonymous. Not everyone is a trained seal who swallows whatever authority figures throw at them and believes what they are told to believe instead of finding out for themselves. Ask Galileo.Marc Rubinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10746456438052849715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-63807999898243477292013-04-30T09:02:07.940-07:002013-04-30T09:02:07.940-07:00"This is an incredibly stupid essay. Issue wa..."This is an incredibly stupid essay. Issue was never with actual Penn State police, but with Schultz's "oversight" of said police."<br /><br />This is an incredibly stupid comment by a complete moron who is totally ignorant of the fact or anything that occurred. If it was all about Schultz not doing his job Paterno would have never been criticized for going to campus police, Suprerintendent of Police in Pennsylvania, Frank Noonan never would have said Paterno should have come to him instead and no one would have been writing about campus police at all. You are clearly an idiot who not only has no possession of the facts, never read of a word of the media reports at the time and doesnt have an iota of common sense or logic either. And if you dont like how Penn State set up their structure of campus police with Schultz in charge, then say that. The structure that was in place for decades had nothing to do with reporting anything. Get it now? or are you still befuddled?Marc Rubinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10746456438052849715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-44591753503591679682013-04-30T08:48:08.743-07:002013-04-30T08:48:08.743-07:00"You demean Officer Collier's life and mi..."You demean Officer Collier's life and minimize his death in your efforts to defend your fallen idol and the sweat factory that is Penn State football. Shame on you!!"<br /><br />As I pointed out repeatedly in the article the shame all belongs to people like you and your perverse ideas of morality. It is you who demeans the memory of Officer Collier because you demean and trivialize everthing he stood for snd believed in which is justice in the name of trying to make yourself look moral. You wear the shame well.Marc Rubinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10746456438052849715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-47666184970187006612013-04-30T08:41:35.646-07:002013-04-30T08:41:35.646-07:00This is an incredibly stupid essay. Issue was neve...This is an incredibly stupid essay. Issue was never with actual Penn State police, but with Schultz's "oversight" of said police. Schultz was neither a cop nor an investigator, and he failed to turn over what he was told to any cops or investigators. This writer's a complete moron.whatisthisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-36412358475441855942013-04-30T05:34:59.229-07:002013-04-30T05:34:59.229-07:00If there was a coverup, why were so many people no...If there was a coverup, why were so many people notified? Is that how a normal person tries to cover something up? And when does an indictment mean someone is guilty of a crime? Last I heard, it was innocent until proven guilty. The fact is, the media was so angered by Sandusky's crimes and didnt take the time to learn all the facts. They took down the one man who did the right thing his entire life because of lies and calculated attacks by the state of PA AG office. For those who still insist Paterno is guilty of anything, even morality issues, dont know the facts of the case and are still working on the 'facts' of Louis Freeh. Get educated on the matter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-70994286033637698482013-04-29T19:55:02.927-07:002013-04-29T19:55:02.927-07:00FuFuAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-76906966067857145322013-04-29T18:37:35.318-07:002013-04-29T18:37:35.318-07:00Exactly! (Thought it's Ray Gricar, not Vicar) ...Exactly! (Thought it's Ray Gricar, not Vicar) Thanks for posting this!!SelftalkInsanityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04636927779660422958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-62815363033205578022013-04-29T15:57:28.508-07:002013-04-29T15:57:28.508-07:00Well said. Well said. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-72361132531097624092013-04-29T14:18:29.381-07:002013-04-29T14:18:29.381-07:00We need to DEMAND the ouster of those irresponsibl...We need to DEMAND the ouster of those irresponsible journalists..... I'll start it.....espn ... Act now apologize and fire those hobos today!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-80375449497010210892013-04-29T13:48:23.351-07:002013-04-29T13:48:23.351-07:00Everyone in America, except for a handful of Penn ...Everyone in America, except for a handful of Penn State football diehards, believes that Paterno, Curley, Schultz and Spanier participated in a conspiracy to cover up child rape. The prosecutors certainly share this belief. That's why Curley et al were indicted (you conveniently failed to mention that pesky "indictment" thing). Now, you defend one member of the alleged cover-up, Paterno, by stating that he didn't cover up because he "reported" the child rape to his fellow conspirators. This is like Haldeman and Erhlichman saying, "We didn't cover up. We reported the break-in to our boss, Nixon." Why are you surprised that the media (and almost all other sentient mammals on the planet) find this "defense" laughable?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-74681388475349087022013-04-29T12:25:15.594-07:002013-04-29T12:25:15.594-07:00Penn state football is a sweat factory cuz the pla...Penn state football is a sweat factory cuz the players actually work hard on the field and off...ranked highest in the nation for graduation rates among all student athletes unlike those retards in the sec and the acc...can't deny the facts!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-75402166171619825712013-04-29T12:13:27.107-07:002013-04-29T12:13:27.107-07:00Wow! How incredibly heartless and insulting to the...Wow! How incredibly heartless and insulting to the memory of the MIT policeman to hijack the story of his death to try to wash away the sins of Penn State and to justify the "Amen Corner" in "Happy Valley!" You demean Officer Collier's life and minimize his death in your efforts to defend your fallen idol and the sweat factory that is Penn State football. Shame on you!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-21028844571225595082013-04-29T10:51:27.443-07:002013-04-29T10:51:27.443-07:00And, if I remember correctly. Every summer, hundre...And, if I remember correctly. Every summer, hundreds of officers from around PA the State bordering, come to.PSU yearly for training by PSUPD. Hmm<br /><br />JT HRIM 01Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-676428832185661502013-04-29T10:34:12.824-07:002013-04-29T10:34:12.824-07:00In fact, campus police have jurisdiction on colleg...In fact, campus police have jurisdiction on college campuses and should be the first call. They are a real police force with every power that a municipal police force polices. The Penn State Campus Police Department has 48 armed officers.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17086610544664594383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3820377390281203107.post-12348364412588710202013-04-29T02:43:11.966-07:002013-04-29T02:43:11.966-07:00The DA's name was Ray Gricar (not Vicar).The DA's name was Ray Gricar (not Vicar).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com